Comments on: Is Eco-Tourism Really Eco-Friendly? https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/ Travel Better, Cheaper, Longer Mon, 09 Sep 2024 18:02:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Lucy Weir https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-277684 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:51:34 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-277684 In reply to Petri.

Military flying is HUGE – and the US military CO2 impact is excluded in their reckoning of what carbon reductions they’re going to make (probably true of other countries too, but the scale in the US is massive). But it goes back to the same thing: we can blame everyone else for the state of the world but the only person whose behaviour you can actually change (if you’re lucky!) is your own. The water situation sounds mad. What a shame…

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By: Lucy Weir https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-277683 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:48:09 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-277683 In reply to Frank.

Yes but the problem is precisely that no one wants to stop travelling! The only way I ever managed to stop myself from travelling anywhere at all was to have so little money (by going back to university, essentially) that I couldn’t afford to go anywhere… and that means I can’t take my kids anywhere exotic either. Ho Hum. Still, they meet a lot of interesting people who pass through here, and one day, just once, I’ll take them on a long haul to Canada or to Alaska, because my my Dad lived and worked there and I want them to see some of the places that we went to as kids. Eamon Ryan calls this ‘love miles’ – I’m not sure about that phrase, to be honest!!! Sounds seriously cheesy to me. But I do think the small things make you reflect on the bigger things and I do think that we need to work out ways of curbing our addiction to travel, however seductive and beautiful the imagery (and often the reality) of other places is… HOW? (Apart from self-enforced poverty – not fun, folks).

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By: Kristin Oneill https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-132326 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:38:11 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-132326 In reply to Gary Diedrichs.

Very well said.

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By: Petri https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-131484 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 04:45:54 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-131484 The problem with eco-everything is that you need to know the local situation.

For example here in Helsinki, Finland, there was a trend to save water. We don’t have shortage of fresh water and due the people trying to save water, the water company now has to run water straight to the ocean to maintain the quality of water in the pipes. Perhaps we could lower the standards but it’s kind of stupid just because people are doing the wrong things because they feel it’s the right thing to do.

It’s very similar thing about electricity. The local electricity company is owned by the city and a major source of income. If we save energy, the income from the electricity company will go down and our local taxes will raise. During the night Finland sells electricity to Norway. Why? Because our nuclear plants cannot be stopped for the night anyway and Norway will use the electricity to pump the water back up. During the day that same water will flow through the hydro plant and generate “green electricity”. It’s not that green but it’s smart thing to do.

Our forests grow faster than we use them. If we don’t use the wood for anything, we will end up with overcrowded, unhealthy forests.

There are local greenhouses that grow tomatoes and other vegetables during the winter. When it’s dark most of the day. When it’s down to -30 C cold. But they can be called “locally produced, organic”.

In our case, “ecology” isn’t in our travel vocabulary. We prefer to travel smart, do things that make sense from the local perspective.

PS. When people are worried about the ecological footprint from flying, why is military flying always forgotten? Just saying 🙂

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By: Frank https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-131290 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:23:20 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-131290 I recall looking at a composting toilet at an eco-lodge in Ecuador and thinking that no matter how much water this was saving, the carbon increase in the environment just to get me there and toss mulch down a hole in the floor was way more than that little toilet could overcome. We should all try to minimize the impact our travel has, but just getting in an airplane and transporting a human being and all their (mostly newly bought) gear around the globe is wholly un-sustainable. Heck, just living in the first world is unsustainable in any long term sense.

I’m not suggesting that people should not travel or that they should not try to be conscious of reducing the impact that they have when they do. But, we need to be honest with ourselves and recognize that no matter how many seasons we wear out recycled Patagonia high-loft jacket or how much we eschew big fancy hotels, the simple act of being somewhere other than home (with the lights off) is unsustainable in very real ways.

Anyone who has ever watch a busload of tourists (ourselves included) clamber over the ruins of Machu Picchu has to recognize that the problem is us. If we are there to witness it, then we are contributing to the consumption of resources, destruction of wilderness and wearing down of precious cultural icons. Does this mean I won’t travel? No, but I won’t try to kid myself into thinking that reusing a towel or eating from a street cart has a meaningful impact on the environment when I got there by jet and saved the money to travel in the first place by participating in the first world economy.

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By: Kristin Oneill https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-131245 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:18:14 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-131245 I agree for the most part with your stance in the post, but it is important not to overlook the success stories. For example, Costa Rica has structured their economy around ecotourism and it has incentivized the government to protect tropical forests and the species that live in them. There is certainly a great amount of corruption and greenwashing taking place at several scales, but ecotourism still has been incredibly beneficial to the natural environment and economies of developing countries.

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By: Frederick https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-90796 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:33:11 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-90796 It is hardly to say eco on something that use a lot of paper for commercials and fuels for transportation.

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By: Gray https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-63063 Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:45:11 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-63063 Thanks for posting this at FB, since I missed it the 1st time around. 🙂 One point that needs to be raised is that a lot of the things that resorts take credit for as being “green” also happen to save them money….so it’s not exactly selfless on their part. But hey, whatever works to get them to make even those changes! Perhaps there should be a set of stringent criteria that need to be met before a hotel or resort is allowed to claim the “green” title, much like organic foods or LEEDS certification…

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By: Gary Diedrichs https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-44517 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:37:46 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-44517 Obviously, by the very nature of my website, I believe wholeheartedly in the concept of green travel. And, yes, the concept is a complete oxymoron. Unless you’re shuffling along on foot or peddling a bicycle, no travel mode is completely green. Just as no big corporate hotel chain will ever be blind to the bottom line when taking green measures. Hey, it’s a screwed up, imperfect world out there. Greenwashing has become this boogy man — another excuse to say, ah, what the hell, what difference does it make? It does make a difference. Collectively, it make a BIG difference. Who cares why a hotel decides to recycle and conserve energy and take steps to be connected to its local community? The point is, it’s doing it! And as travelers we make all kinds of personal choices every day on the road. So support the greener options! You’ll feel good for having done so, stay healthier on the road, and vote with your dollars for greener travel. Like reading the label on your box of breakfast cereal, it takes a little more effort to figure out the best thing for you. But it can be done, and it’s worth it, in the long run.

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By: Lifecruiser https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/eco-tourism-really-eco-friendly/#comment-7891 Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:30:20 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=1826#comment-7891 Sometimes I even think it feels hopeless, that we never get anywhere in this matter, but I guess we must have some stamina. And yes, we all have to do our part of it otherwise it will never be. As in every matter, the key is education – it’s such an important part of it. To highlight all the aspects.

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